Pac, I don't buy that for a minute. you can bet that when the Canbay properties went in with tivus to discuss the contract, I would stake my life on the fact that there were revenue projections and $$$$'s tied to it. You can bet that Cambay did not sign a contract without evidence of market and site surveys showing figures that made smart business sense for them. sure they are guesstimates, since no one does what tivus does, but there is definately data available. I don't let a magazine salesman put a mag or book in my business unless he can provide hard numbers on how it is going to build my business. Cambay aint going to allow a IPTV SYSTEM INSTALL WITHOUT IT. Maybe, SP doesn't want his data to be public knowledge, and i get that, but to say that the data doesn't exist is just "Hogwash"