You bet, too many wounds to sustain. Either we are not playin it right or the penny world promotional (good ones) are gone.. no one I think is making big bucks here.. A little bit here and there but it aint worth the effort. Ive seen people ttalkin on ATA and other good forums about making big bucks, but couple of thousand aint big bucks , if you cross tens of thousands, then they are making big bucks... I dont think Ihub has those classy traders and rollers here, exept Garyst :) People here just bullshit and talk big, showing off their 65 inch tvs on the forum, tryig to prove what? I dont know,,, The point I am tryig to make is, dont take advice from people from ihub, there are bullshitters , play at your own comfort. Garyst is someone I would listen to but other than that, it sucks... We are newbies and mean no harm to anyone unlike others who have been here for long if you know what I mean :)