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Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #1 Post by Mondomatty » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:59 pm
Hi I am new to the forum and was hoping to get some information regarding this conspiracy theory.
I can't find anything online to oppose this theory, but this appears to be the idea that
the commonwealth of Australia is actually a corporation that is registered in the USA?
Here is where I got the information(if you can call it that, it's a bit rambling).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150718198340657&set=a.10150718148995657.705981.513295656&type=1&pid=19681635&id=513295656
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #2 Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:04 am
Mondomatty wrote:..... appears to be the idea that the commonwealth
of Australia is actually a corporation that is registered in the USA?
Thanks in advance.
It is complete rubbish.
The Commonwealth of Australia was a colony and then dominion, of Great Britain. Although the Queen is still the monarch of Australia ( and 56 other countries) Australia obtained its full independence with Britain's Statute of Westminster Act (1931) formally ending most of the constitutional links between Australia and the UK. In reality, the right to appeal to the UK's House of Lords only ended in the late 1970's.
Australia retains the facade of the old colonial system, in that we still have a governor general who takes orders and reports to HRH, the Queen (of Australia). This legacy is mostly ceremonial but maintained so Australian commissioned officers can transfer back and forth between Canadian, English and other realms of the crown. Our constitution states that our next monarch will be the next monarch of the U.K. which seems odd but that's the way it is. I understand Canada is exactly the same.
It would be impossible for the Commonwealth of Australia to be registered as a corporation in the USA as it is not a USA trading entity, nor does it have directors, shareholders or unit holders. It may be that for tax and copyright purposes under the double tax agreement in the USA that elements of the Australian government have holding entities in the USA but that's really nothing at all. North Korea has a variety of Australian companies to do the same thing in Australia.
You may be amused to consider the American War of Independence. In the middle of this war a Royal Navy captain "discovered" Australia and suddenly the UK had a new huge empty colony without all those pesky settlers wanting voting rights. This probably upset the Dutch who had just named Australia "New Holland" and had already established trade in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) ( I have always wondered if the UK lost interest in pursuing the war against the USA's colonialist rebels after Australia was "discovered").
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #3 Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:11 am
I forgot to link you to the Australian Constitution......viola!
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/ ... /coaca430/
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #4 Post by Mondomatty » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:47 am
Thanks for your reply, very helpful. I'd really like to know exactly what that registered corporation listed on sec is, as you are probably aware most conspiracy theorists would claim there is 'something else going on' when in truth I'm sure its easily explained. Also do you mind eloborating on the north korea stuff? Or simply linking me to some more info? Sorry about my spelling/grammar I'm on my blackberry on a packed train!
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #5 Post by xouper » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:14 pm
According to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), foreign governments that wish to
trade securities in the U.S must file certain financial statements such as Form 18 and Form 424.
See for example:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sec-form-18.asp
Form 424A and its variations are for filing a prospectus.
But apparently this is all just a cover story for a deep dark conspiracy.
Who knew.
And this "corporation conspiracy" is not limited to just Australia.
See for example, Hungary
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
Venezuela:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
And even Quebec:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
more .. http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16545
Gee, he missed the USA ..
Post #1 Post by Mondomatty » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:59 pm
Hi I am new to the forum and was hoping to get some information regarding this conspiracy theory.
I can't find anything online to oppose this theory, but this appears to be the idea that
the commonwealth of Australia is actually a corporation that is registered in the USA?
Here is where I got the information(if you can call it that, it's a bit rambling).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150718198340657&set=a.10150718148995657.705981.513295656&type=1&pid=19681635&id=513295656
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #2 Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:04 am
Mondomatty wrote:..... appears to be the idea that the commonwealth
of Australia is actually a corporation that is registered in the USA?
Thanks in advance.
It is complete rubbish.
The Commonwealth of Australia was a colony and then dominion, of Great Britain. Although the Queen is still the monarch of Australia ( and 56 other countries) Australia obtained its full independence with Britain's Statute of Westminster Act (1931) formally ending most of the constitutional links between Australia and the UK. In reality, the right to appeal to the UK's House of Lords only ended in the late 1970's.
Australia retains the facade of the old colonial system, in that we still have a governor general who takes orders and reports to HRH, the Queen (of Australia). This legacy is mostly ceremonial but maintained so Australian commissioned officers can transfer back and forth between Canadian, English and other realms of the crown. Our constitution states that our next monarch will be the next monarch of the U.K. which seems odd but that's the way it is. I understand Canada is exactly the same.
It would be impossible for the Commonwealth of Australia to be registered as a corporation in the USA as it is not a USA trading entity, nor does it have directors, shareholders or unit holders. It may be that for tax and copyright purposes under the double tax agreement in the USA that elements of the Australian government have holding entities in the USA but that's really nothing at all. North Korea has a variety of Australian companies to do the same thing in Australia.
You may be amused to consider the American War of Independence. In the middle of this war a Royal Navy captain "discovered" Australia and suddenly the UK had a new huge empty colony without all those pesky settlers wanting voting rights. This probably upset the Dutch who had just named Australia "New Holland" and had already established trade in the Dutch East Indies (Indonesia) ( I have always wondered if the UK lost interest in pursuing the war against the USA's colonialist rebels after Australia was "discovered").
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #3 Post by Matthew Ellard » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:11 am
I forgot to link you to the Australian Constitution......viola!
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/ ... /coaca430/
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Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #4 Post by Mondomatty » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:47 am
Thanks for your reply, very helpful. I'd really like to know exactly what that registered corporation listed on sec is, as you are probably aware most conspiracy theorists would claim there is 'something else going on' when in truth I'm sure its easily explained. Also do you mind eloborating on the north korea stuff? Or simply linking me to some more info? Sorry about my spelling/grammar I'm on my blackberry on a packed train!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: Commonwealth of Australia is a corporation?
Post #5 Post by xouper » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:14 pm
According to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), foreign governments that wish to
trade securities in the U.S must file certain financial statements such as Form 18 and Form 424.
See for example:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sec-form-18.asp
Form 424A and its variations are for filing a prospectus.
But apparently this is all just a cover story for a deep dark conspiracy.
Who knew.
And this "corporation conspiracy" is not limited to just Australia.
See for example, Hungary
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
Venezuela:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
And even Quebec:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar ... getcompany
more .. http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16545
Gee, he missed the USA ..
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