Mike I realize that a lot of people have made MM's based on speculation. I too would love to be one of those guys. In a round about way, I guess I was asking how you came up with your figures? I simply provided my rationale, not to sound condescending, but to demonstrate my basis that I have based on what I consider to be somewhat rational thought. Honestly, I think there are a lot of if's that have to line up, and regardless of the negative chatter here, I think they will eventually line up quite nicely. but it is going to take a bit more time. Don't think that it will happen today or even this month. I have a very "out there" theory on why the price is where it is, (you can read my post from Jan 6). If you have some notes, i would love to see them, analyze, and discuss them reasonably. I admittedly have much to learn, and in no way, form, or fashion intend to come off as some type of know all, show all individual. I simply would like to compare thoughts and learn. I would have hoped that was the purpose of a TIVUS board, again that seems way more logical than it's seemingly current use and purpose. but I am guessing since you took my question as an attack on you personally, this will probably bring our discussion to a close. The ball is in your court my friend, i wish you and everyone else here the best in your future endeavors. and apologize for any ill feelings i might have caused. JPR