And here is another point of view, there is a reason Allan has been in Singapore, that is the location of the new headquarters. Also Allan isn't hiding at all, recently he has been in California, Florida and New York. But one area I do agree with Wayne is with piracy issue, I don't think it has helped spotify either. Until the record labels start nailing the big names in piracy like pirate bay, I don't think it will boost paid or subscription based music platforms.