captjoe503 Friday, 01/13/12 12:52:11 AM Re: RudyHater post# 4406 0 Post # of 4460 I'll try again but without addressing some of the topics I did before and see what happens. Your right on your " thru December " period. When I first spoke with an agent in Tulsa I had my buy list in front of me that included all dates, cost etc.. I was asked what my loses where from a date in'05 'till December 31st. '06. I didn't have any in '05. Started buying Jan. 06th. '06. He took that information and when I inquired about buys after '06 I was informed that the current case covered only to the last day in '06. I do know that the 6.1+ mil. the Judge ordered for restitution was specifically allocated for the approx. 168 victims from the three company scams. Their listed losses matched the total. Don't know what criteria was used to get them placed on the initial list of victims but either way. Last year some time I did again speak with a DOJ rep. and was again informed of the 05'-06' time frame and I unfortunately, believing that was accurate spent days contacting numerous investors I had come in contact with over the years and informed them of the restitution and the above time frame. Lot'sa happy people waiting for an E- from the DOJ that will now never come. Got lots of unpleasant calls to make over the next few days now. I'm out 80% of what I anticipated getting back as it turns out and approx. 95% of my total. Too bad in that in reality it was nothing but one long coordinated scam with a couple of common players through the whole show (few little twists though) and all the investors from start to finish weren't covered. " Tickles you " 'ya, me to a little. Can't say we beat 'em but we sure did make their knuckles bleed a bit 'eh ?, intentional or not. The Cartels players wearing orange, a whole lot of meet and greets being canceled and a change of address etc. etc. But on the other hand the real string pullers just dig up a few buried coffee cans, pay their fines as usual and move on to the next score. Wish we could do something on the Government end but our arms are to short to box with God. Looks like that's all we did is kiss our sister (the ugly one) while out on a very expensive date.