Lmorovan ... was my post 3119 also removed before you became moderator? No, it wasn't, if the times on all posts are accurate and I presume they are. I have a copy of it if you'd like me to send it to you. Just let me know. It was dated 7/16/05 at 12:58:04 AM -- just before 1 AM this morning. It would appear that someone's meddling with things here again (or still). OT: rotten & d4 ... how have I ever gotten along not knowing that til now? I can honestly say my education is now complete!