I hear ya dude, the penny market is bullshit but their is a method to the madness and i still havent givin up. tried to buy EGOC at .0009 i was real confident in that one, zecco wouldnt let me buy then it ran to .0058 not too long ago. id like to learn more about options and trade them, i hear if your contract expires you lose 100% on that crap?