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Re: bransteve post# 177738

Thursday, 11/10/2011 4:35:43 PM

Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:35:43 PM

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Eric needs to take heed to this info. When it comes to Cleaning supplies that are chemical based...Military in general are very strict. As I said long ago, the Navy will not as a whole start buying products that they will need to mix to be effective....They will go for the dummy proof...general purpose cleaner that a 10 year old could pick up and clean with....That is why "Simple Green" and "Power Green" are so popular through GSA...They have "Spray" bottles...not like the "squirt" type 1000+ has...How can you "squirt" a bulkhead?....you can't....That's a important thing we do in the Navy...Clean horizontal's and vertical wall's...And the notion that the name "1000+ Stain Remover" will be taken to be anything but a "Stain Remover"...is beyond me....As a RPPO( Repair Parts Petty Officer) in my department, if I knew nothing about this product but the name...I would think it's a "Stain Remover" and not a general purpose cleaner...And if I need to clean a ship or shore command for that matter...would I want general purpose or a stain remover? Think about it.

It's weird...Eric treats, sells, and pitch's the product like a general purpose cleaner and stain remover....but keep's the term Stain Remover attached...I don't get why? IS it because taking the term Stain Remover off would leave Clean-1 without a purpose?


Now on to 3M Maintenance. This is the most important part...3M Maintenance is what keeps Navy equipment working and it's lifespan. Equipment Maintenance is very vital to each commands operations and more-so....mission. Each Department of a Command has a list of equipment they are responsible for doing maintenance on and are given PMS (Preventive Maintenance System) Card's in accordance to each specific type of equipment. This card is suppose to walk you step by step on how to do the maintenance. Now this equipment could be anything.....Valves for pipes...Gas turbine engines...Radio's...Satellite systems...and even filters that collect dust....pretty much anything...These Cards spell out EXACTLY...in verbatim...what product(s) should be used to complete each task. So if it says, use a 12in hammer...and you use a 8in...You could potentially go to Captain's Mast for failure to obey a direct order and follow procedure in accordance with the PMS Card...If it says use a 12oz bottle of General Purpose Cleaner...and you use a 55 Gallon drum of 1000+ "Stain Remover"...You are not following protocol....So with this in mind....NO RPPO will ever find the need to order 1000+ Stain Remover...let alone a drum of it...And no...you cannot simply poor 1000+ in a 12 oz bottle and say "Yeah" I am following the directions"....Each bottle needs to have a MSDS sheet associated to it...with verified info on it....So this is where I get worried that Eric may be in over his head when thinking about keeping the 1000+ current bottle type when approaching GSA. He needs to develop a small 12 oz bottle like the rest of the General purpose cleaners and or...start pitching Clean-1 more for military than 1000+.



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Through recent blogs...it seems Eric has indeed dropped this "Lead Product" stuff...and has made comments in regards to wanting to promote Clean-1 and Kind more....I am happy to hear this...Like I said above...Us Military folks only buy products that we can clean "Everything" with...There is no storeroom with 20 different cleaning solutions...Being that 1000+ has the Stain Remover term attached...IMO I do not expect to much to come of it via GSA...Which isn't to bad if Clean-1 takes the helm...I have used Clean-1 before and compared to other products I have used...It doesn't do anything that another competitor can't do. But it holds it's own. The only thing difficult about this situation is...If the product doesn't do anything new...then you have to find away to "steal" customers from your competitors in other ways....This can be done by product promotion through military channels...customer inquires...word of mouth...and customer feedback....So if Eric can use his connection's...maybe he can start with one military installation and change the general purpose product(s) they are currently buying...My command as of now uses Spray Nine...And No BS...In my space alone...we have about 20 650ml bottles...unused...And I'm an IT...so imagine how many are in other spaces that are considered "dirty"....

I will order the products for my command when I see a natural growth pattern via GSA...I'm in no rush anymore to this company succeed...I have waited longer than I was originally told by the CEO, so for me....I can wait a lot longer...


P.S....Thanks Bran. I appreciate your kind words...My honesty is what got me removed from being a Mod here...Kinda sucks that not every newcomer gets to see things 360 degrees...180 is more what is accepted here...

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