Interesting what you said about the promissory notes. Would those be considered secured debt in BR? As far as Randy is concerned, I met he and several others at the hearing in Austin years ago and I was impressed with most of those folks. If I were to fault Randy over the years, I think the mistake he made was getting too close to MP. I only talked to MP one time and had no desire to talk to him a second time. In time most everyone came to understand what many of you folks have been saying for years. I think we are now past the point of hoping for much of anything . This is Scarednomore's last post on IHUB. Adressed to CROW. THE words of an honest man.