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Re: Stingray post# 12898

Thursday, 10/20/2011 6:37:19 PM

Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:37:19 PM

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Well that just sounds like all the rest of the promoting info commercials and says absolutely nothing of any substance. So in fact it is only claims from a public sub-penny company that wants people to buy their shares and using snake oil sales tactics for promotion of product. As an Herbal and Complementary (alternative) product filing, there is really nothing compared to real clinical trials. As an alternative it's really just another filtered water bottle that needs creative labeling, sales figures, and put into all the other competition on the shelf.

http://www.pharmacyboardkenya.org/assets/files/HERBAL_GUILDLINE.pdf
http://www.pharmacyboardkenya.org/assets/files/Clinical_Trial_Guidelines04_03_2011.pdf

AQLV doesn’t need to go to Kenya and “treat” HIV patients for just some “specially” bottled water. Plenty of market shelves here in the US. But we're hearing about two different things, statements about "clinical trials" and filing as "alternative" or Herbal and complementary products with other herbs, vitamins, “magic water”, etc. Actual “treatment for HIV”, “may be key to cure”, and being cause for Kenyans to stop valid HIV treatment type statements.

No validation from any recognizable authority on the subject, no medical journals, no acceptance from the scientific or recognized media outlets. No working with the one, if not the biggest, organizations over in Kenya with all their money, knowledge, and ability to actually put out something valid (if in fact it is valid), alternative or not.
http://www.iavi.org/working-with-communities/country-programs/Pages/kenya.aspx

Just nothing but similarities of snake oil ads.

"None of which alters the fact that AQLV's absurd and ridiculous claims for its "programmed water" marks Craig Hoffman out as a snake oil salesman of the worst sort."


Yes, snake oil sales. That has been done for ever and the AQLV claims are the same as the snake oil advertisements of almost hundred years ago. Case in point, AQLV's claims sound quite similar to this 1927 ad. The words may change but AQLV's concept and how they use the thought processes of the current population does not. All the cut and pasting and discussion of what water is or what certain elements, chemicals, etc, etc are is not going to get away from that projection.

Specifically on topic of the company and comparisons;
AQLV's reference to scientific value (where there isn't a connection, but only to make the public believe that there might be).
AQLV's reference to "alternative methods" from the regular doctor prescribed methods.
AQLV's reference to "only wanting to do good, at little or no profit".
AQLV's reference to "trials" and positive results from those so called "trials".

All these things and others are the same and typical of all the snake oil sales past such as this one, and the ones we see today.
On topic as what the company is now doing and a very serious issue when claiming treatment or positive results of incurable diseases.

From 1927 ad:

Quote:
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The Fine Print: Consult us about your trouble, no matter what it is. Hearing people is our business. We study we work we think could find the way to accomplish a cure. We devoted years to this task before our methods were perfected to produce results that satisfied us. Now we are satisfied because our labor and study have succeeded. We are satisfied because we can cure your disease quicker, we can do it better and because we can satisfy you better than anyone. Our aim is not what fee we can get but how many can we cure. We cure them all. Hundreds of people here in Salt Lake City can testify to this fact. Scores of patients whose cases were considered hopeless by themselves and by other doctors have found through our hands a quick permanent complete cure in robust health. This is not an advertising lie. It is a fact. Are you diseased and sick? Is your blood tainted with poison? Are you weak and your powers failing? What of it? Don't give up. Don't lose your hope and courage. We can help you. Will you come to us and let us cure you RIGHT AWAY, or do you prefer to keep your disease, or to engage some doctor who theme will be to keep you under treatment for months.

Never mind fee, come anyway and be cured. We want everyone in the country who is afflicted to write us about his ailment.

Pretty Bold Claims - This was typical of all the old snake oil and cure all claims of the day.
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