OTCFisherman - I do not know that, "SFIO is up **** creek without a paddle". I only know about SFIO what is public information, the info that I posted in post#54442 and what I can reasonably deduct from those facts.
If SFIO.PK has always been a "a phantom share creation" and stock selling 'scheme' then that would necessarily mean that the SEC/FBI lied about the intent of their actions and that shareholders were and are going to get 'hurt' and that they
stood by and watched for over a year investors buy into a stock for a company they knew was a sham (illegal). It would mean that the patent is fake, which would mean that the uspto website is in collusion with the FBI to post false info and that the partner
AHN is fake and does not exist.
It would also mean that all of the PRs announced by TS and Roth and will be announced in future weeks/months are bogus and untrue which would go against the District of South Florida rulings which would mean G Roth is going to be thrown in jail any day now OR
else he is an elaborate hoax and undercover FBI agent posing as a CEO of a phony creation company of the FBI, which has already bilked investors for millions. LMAO
I mean, this is movie material, keep going! I am getting all kinds of ideas from various kooky theories these days for new movie screen plays, this is great stuff!
Also this would mean that along with the alleged phony shares that I own, everyone else owns phony shares of a phony company and so we together would have a very very good case for a class action lawsuit against the FBI's phony setup in order to force them
to disgorge all of their phony profits that are actually REAL losses that were realized by REAL investors/traders. Hmmm, do we think we can 'steal from the sheriff'? Not unless we figure out that he stole from innocent investors and we take the whole crony steaming pile of &#! to court. ;)
It is just sad that after months and months of debating about whether or not this company was a sham because at the time it had no product
or no financials that even NOW after the launch of the REAL product and now promises that financials are coming soon that we are once again alleging that this company is nothing but a fake phony sham and creation of the powers that be.
I will say though that the level of imaginative thinking lately is in full swing. Thanks for the crazy ideas, keep 'em coming! As I had always bought shares to sit on for multiple years anyway, I guess waiting another few years to see how the product/patent
performs is not a huge change for my situation; aka, I still will not be dumping my shares. Actually, the stock has not been given a 'life sentence' because it is not the case that the entire market relies on DTCC, I could easily
go open up a Canadian brokerage account and start buying up any and all shares that are up for sale and the pps/volume would sky rocket but will not do that because I just do not care enough about this particular spec holding in my small spec portfolio, the larger market occupies most of my trading time these days.
It would be nice though if some could post some new DD and info/news about the company/product/industry, rather than sit around claiming that
I personally own half the float or that this company is nothing more than a scam and all the PRs that ever were announced were all lies, thx. Otherwise, please feel free to stay in the "back yard chewing on old bones". ;)
"So my advice ... if your invested here...
Watch closely whats going on with the bigs and their design and SELL this stock before the bigs hit the stream.
I think sfio will have one or even multiple runs in the mean time.....
I understand the bigs are at least 2 years away from hitting the market."
Ok, yea, yea, I got it, sell it in two years when the 'big' tobbaccos come out with their revolutionary new devices to deliver atomized nicotine, right? Is that basically the main point? Ok.
Nah, I have some better advice, buy some SFIO.PK any time the pps dips close to par value and hold for years and never sell just on the principle of it $$$.
I do not quite understand some of the perspectives that have daily been conveyed here in that the company is nothing more than a sham share selling machine because even if that viewpoint were completely accurate, it would necessarily mean that a large number of other consequences would be logically true and those consequences are too hard IMO to fathom; movie-land. If that viewpoint is itself an extension of the intent to simply convert all of the die hard believers in the company to capitulate and sell in sub penny land for whatever reason then I cannot understand that either because even on June 30 we saw the pps drop from .03 to .0041 and as of yesterday we are at .0041; basically sitting at the same pps (lows) for months, so I do not think I would be too far off base here by speculating that anyone who wanted to sell and get out at these prices has already done so and anyone still holding the stock will not be convinced at this point to sell unless we hear some officially new fundamentally negative news from the company. It is also interesting to note that while investors/traders can only sell but not buy right now there still has only been roughly a couple million shares sold out in the sub penny range, remember there are hundreds of millions of shares of SFIO stock so literally less than 1% or 2% of the stock has traded in the last few months to pull the stock down over 90%. Just look at the tape from Oct 6, when it was trading at .0084, in almost 2 weeks time the stock has only seen under 2M shares traded yet the pps has dropped enough to take the market cap for the company down by more than HALF! LOL
I think the viewpoint that has been speculated that the pps will drop significantly if and when the stock is ever unlocked because 'stuck holders' will just want out is actually completely off the mark and ridiculous because this entire time, shareholders are able to sell, they just cannot buy. So if holders wanted out, they would have sold already. Actually all this lock did was build up pent-up demand for the stock and so if it ever got unlocked buyers would flood in and IMO sub penny prices would get lost in the dust probably within the first half hour of trading or less; remember, the largest volume day that we have seen when the stock was locked already by most brokerages still saw about 20 to 30M in intraday volume and the stock actually rose to about .025 (almost to .03), roughly the price at which it was trading the day before the lock but before the litigation news.
If there is any evidence that clearly shows that Smokefree-Innotec, Inc is just a 'shell' empty company with no assets, no patents, no patent licenses, no cash on hand, no product, and nothing but a share selling machine then I am sure we shareholders would all love to see the proof, please post links/source. The issue there though is that on otcmarkets we have the last Disclosure filing which does show scans of actual official documents showing the incorporated entity and signatures by the state of Nevada, etc. And I do not know about any other shareholders here but MY shares are 100% genuine/REAL, they are not electronic markers or IOUs from brokerage houses because I bought them and have owned them for months upon months before the May 2011 price spike and did not sell or buy a single share during the two unusual trading days. It would be a tall order for any here to make the claim that before the May spike the company/TA/MMs/brokerages/whomever/etc sold illegal unregistered shares in the market and that we ALL therefore have fake phony shares because that would necessarily mean that the SEC/FBI stood idly by and watched REAL investors getting defrauded by whomever and did nothing about it. I just cannot imagine that that is REAL. >:-O
This company is REAL and I 'know' it! :D
GLTY
$SFIO!
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