Ted Bundy,Al Capone,Bin Ladin,Coafie Anon,Charles Manson,Buano,Barbra Streisand,Al Gore,John Kerry,Stalin,Hitler,FDR,Dick Durbin,Jesse Jackson,Louis Farakhan,Ted Kennedy and Bill and Hillary Clinton all grew up on apple farms ''Yikes,I believe Hillary grew up on a sour grapes farm,my mistake'' so that shoots down your theory that nothing but good can come out of them.Maybe Dan will be the exception and it will break the curse in the same fashion the Red Sox finally one a world series over the Yankees.