In pinky land, there are two predominate realities; one is an unscrupulous snake oil sales person who gets people into the business to fleece them. The second is a company with a good idea who don't have fortune 500 managers, but have great ideas to try to get to the market place. They both go up and down, but the second really does want the idea to succeed. I believe that Tivus is the second. Look, very few people have the skill set to be a genius in putting together tv systems and also are financial wizards. I guess I am just a little surprised at how naive some of our folks are about this company. Even if SP was a super star in all areas, this would be a squeeze. I am long because I hope that Tivus has a contract coming, and I am averaging down to get the most out of the pop when it is announced. For all the whiners, let's wise up and quit acting like spoiled kids. This is a crap shoot! If this company really does go, there are going to be some ridiculously rich people here. I don't think it will ever hit what I had hoped given current management, but I can still get along with less. I still hope Tivus becomes an ORCA. R3 Fry Guppy