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Tuesday, 09/20/2011 4:12:53 PM

Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:12:53 PM

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Response from Craig Hoffman CEO Aqualiv: His answers are in red. Enjoy the SUNset tonight!!
Thank you very much for your support. Please find my comments within your message below. Thanks again.


Best,
Craig



If I have any specific questions from the board I will forward them to you.

Sample posts:

They lied about the trademarks, which they do not own:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:4uaqbr.2.6

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4001%3A4uaqbr.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=NatuRx&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query



Not exactly sure which trademarks are being referenced here… AquaLiv is a registered trademark and bears the registered trademark symbol ®. Any of our other trademarks bearing the ordinary trademark symbol ™, simply means we are staking claim to the mark based on its first use in commerce. No registration is required to display the ™ symbol. Our trademarks were professionally searched, however, and available at the time of first use in commerce. We do expect to officially register all trademarks when the stylized (branded) version of the name are completed, as trademarks can be registered as plain letters or as stylized art. We will register the name and the art in the same registration.[/u]

They have no clinical studies registered on www.clinicaltrials.gov, which as a US company they must do, even for trials conducted in Kenya.



The clinical study has not been started. We are still organizing the study. Currently, we are waiting for the budget and fee estimates required by the participating clinics. There are also ongoing discussions about the protocol. More details are needed before we can register.

Their collaborator, Dr. Mutisya refuses to answer my question on Ethical Committee approval even though he was happy to pass on what he fondly imagines are my personal details from my email to AQLV and its agents.



First, Mr. Mutisya is not a doctor. Second, Mr. Mutisya took great offense to the personally condemning tone of the email that was sent to him and will not reply to such a man.

NatuRx HIV/AIDS is not a drug and the laws of drugs do not apply. Based on the chemical content of the treatment, no approval from any committee or regulatory body is required to distribute it anywhere. It is only water. Approval is only needed to market the product and make claims regarding the disease it is intended to treat. Our intention is to complete the trial and fulfill our obligations in order to make claims and market the product. We also want the data from the trial, of course. Our treatment is information based and flexible, not a fixed molecule. The more patients we treat and the more HIV/AIDS bioinformation we collect, the more potent the treatment becomes.

I am not sure why a man who claims to be a scientist does not ask us questions directly? We are happy to explain details in most instances. NatuRx formulations is not based on chemistry, but rather physics.

If a baseball is thrown at your head, do you need the ball to contact your head before moving out of the way? Of course not. No chemical interaction is required for you to change your behavior. Only information in this case. We have discovered a way to communicate with organisms. Our treatments are only messages. Biological software. They are not drugs, but they are powerful.

And finally, no reputable scientist anywhere in the world would regard this as anything other than the most unutterable pseudoscientific claptrap:

"This invention treats a living body's illness using the information from an antigen or an antibody acquired through magnetism, and relates to the information storage medium and information storage finishing ceramic body which are used for the prevention of a disease, the therapeutic method, and this method of the living thing to which activity is urged."

Do you not realise this is literally meaningless to anyone with a basic education in science??



Any good student of history can tell you that every now and then something comes along that fundamentally changes our understanding about how the world around us and even our own bodies function.

While skepticism is healthy, so is open-mindedness. Perhaps from a chemists' perspective, what we do may seem impossible. After all, when all one has is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. However, biology is a great deal more than a series complex chemical reactions. There is so much science does not yet know. A close mind will not allow science to progress.

This man seems to believe his own knowledge is so infallible that what we are doing must be impossible. I think it is safe to say that we will see no great leaps forward in science from his efforts. Perhaps if he spent his time being more creative in science and less of a critic, he would find better things to do with his time than condemn us.

Patent or no patent, AQLV is clearly a scam that relies on the gullibility and ignorance of potential investors.

Our scientific team is certainly well educated and experienced. We are aware that what we are doing sounds fantastic. It is fantastic. It is based on a new discovery regarding the natural world around us. It isn't studied in any university. You won't find it in any textbook. This is a revolution.

It appears that AQLV has no patents, and no trade marks.

Our technology is patented in Japan. We missed the 18 or 24 months period when you can patent the same thing in the U.S. You cannot re-patent something in the U.S. unless novel changes have ben made after this period. Japanese patents are respected in the U.S. and most developed nations.


Here's the proof:

In its PRs and on its website, AquaLiv (AQLV) claim to have a patented its "technology" (miracle water that has a memory and can be used to treat HIV/AIDS, believe it or not):

"Based on AquaLiv's patented BioT™ Bioinformation Technology"

http://aqualiv.net/news/news-releases/129-aqualiv-technology-laymans-terms

Searches of the official US Government site for the terms AquaLiv, Infrared Systems International (except for an IR camera security system, # 7,738,008), Bioinformation, BioT and NatuRx do not produce any relevant results, which rather suggests that these patents are in fact non-existent.

eg: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=BioT&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=Bioinformation&FIELD2=&d=PTXT

If anyone knows different, I'd be interested to know where I can find details of the Intellectual Property AQLV claim to hold on these various miracle products.

Neither, it appears, do AVLQ own the trademarks for BioT and NatuRx as they claim:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:4uaqbr.2.6

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4001%3A4uaqbr.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=NatuRx&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query

To falsely claim ownership of either patents or TMs is a serious offense.

But then so is securities fraud in general, and AVLQ and its associates seem to be guilty of that too.


Possibly the world's most ridiculous and stupid claim, one made by AQLV:

"You see, great water isn't just free of contaminates, but also has a special molecular structure that helps you achieve better health."

A special molecular structure?

What can they mean? I have a degree in Chemistry and in the context that they claim to be operating, their claim is worse than meaningless.

As far as drinking water is concerned, water is more than one molecule. This statement is made in regards to a bulk volume of water. It refers to the molecule to molecule bonding structure. Water is a bipolar molecule. Think of it as a little magnet that sticks to the other little magnets. Smaller clusters of water molecules are more readily absorbed in tissues than larger clusters of molecules.

You don't need instrumentation or a chemistry degree to understand this when drinking AquaLiv Water. Drink a whole liter all at once. You will feel bloated for about a couple of minutes with AquaLiv Water. Any other water sloshes around in the gut for much longer and is uncomfortable.

Our structuring technology concerning bulk water is a completely separate technology from BioT. Most people, even chemists, do not understand water like we do. But, we are a for-profit company, not a university. They will have to get their education elsewhere.



It's also fraudulent.

Just like everything else about this obvious scam.

Again, FDA will be interested in their health claims. FDA tend not to like snake oil salesmen operating in the US market


"Just saying, a scam would be avoiding clinical testing not embracing them the way Aqualiv is."

Actually, AquaLiv is claiming to conduct clinical studies, but that is clearly a lie as the official US Government site shows that no such studies are being conducted:

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=NatuRx%E2%84%A2

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=AquaLiv

Presumably they thought by claiming to hold them in Kenya, no one would be able to verify their claims.

Somewhat amateurish of them not to realise that they could still get caught.

Any company that claims that water has a "memory" and that they have developed

[color=red]"[color=red]NatuRx(TM) formulations [which] utilize novel wave-based information composites in lieu of molecules for treatment." [/color][/color]which can replace protease inhibitors in the treatment of HIV/AIDS

is so obviously a scam aimed at the most naive and gullible in society as to be nigh on incredible.

Shame on the perpetrators and those who knowingly encourage them.

We'll have to see how long it can stand once the authorities know that some people at least take exception to this deliberate and rather obvious fraud.

We are prepared to answer the questions of any regulatory body. We are not breaking any regulatory laws. Nor are we breaking the laws of physics or chemistry. We are, however, going to change the world.