Cat, has Joe ever been the outright CEO and had to run those companies? I believe he has stated this is his first time as a CEO(I could be dead wrong) but since his only way or recouping money is to make a go of it, he is actually trying to make it work? He has been and is a finance guy. It's his forte, toxic or not. He still made a ton doing it. Lets face it here, he can try to dilute if need be, but there is so much news and warnings out now, volume is dismal and he won't make it that way. He has to attempt to make it work. Not saying leopards change spots, but now as CEO and to make money back for himself, he has to give it a try.