There is CE and then there is CE. It is hard to discern between a true CE and a CE that has been placed because all of the forms have not been followed. One is about form, the other about substance. That is why we must each do our own due diligence. And yes, we can look at many variables in determining whether a company is a sham or merely in a transitional stage. A transitional stage is not without risk, but if management is doing its best, that's what we look for, especially if their is product to be gotten to. Given that it is not a sham, there is empirical evidence that gold is present in commercial quantity, and if the company clears the barrier of being underfunded, it could be very, very lucrative for us investors. Granted, communication has not been good, but then, we don't know the variables that are in place in SL and we can't assert our own beliefs on what is happening there. I was here and invested in this comnpany prior to the CE being placed onthe company, and I disagreed with it then and I still disagree with it. This stock has hardly been promoted. In fact, in promotion I give this company a grade of F- - - - - -. I mean, take a lesson from SAEI on promotion.