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Re: ONEBGG post# 17656

Saturday, 07/30/2011 10:44:49 PM

Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:44:49 PM

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What I mean by that is – what would our grandparents, great grandparents, or great, great grandparents think of us for relying on others for so much? Is that what they instilled in us? What they taught our family members before us? I say that is not what they taught unless they were lazy, weak or criminal.

The ones I knew just wanted for me to do the best I could, with the hope I could make a good life for myself. Doesn't mean we don't like them get curved balls thrown at us down the road. We can't control alot of what goes on in our lives.......like our health. We can try do all the right things, but this doesn't assure that we won't get something dumped on our heads.....Patrick Swayzee is one example,,,,,,,,,,and Walter Payton is another that stands out......even Ronald Reagan.

I see your point, "except", I disagree with this perspective. Lets go back a little farther, and take a look at history. Every ruler, every country and every breed of people willing to war throughout Asia, East and West Europe, the Middle East, and Africa wanted what their country didn't have, and did whatever to get it............500 years ago it came to these shores. We know the result.........they came in the name of the Queen, King, and "God"............

Moving in fast forward we know what WW1 brought, a Europe everyone fled from for all the reasons we're aware of, but yet went back to die for a government whose president wanted the money loans secured. Ten years after, the Great Depression brought on a people who wanted to continue to believe in prosperity, and if not for soup lines, and handouts many would have died. We also know that it was the corruption of those who controlled the market that caused it.

Unlike the last 3 years we could see it again, and maybe worse if we continue down these roads to ruin. Its a different era for sure, and there's reasons why we have lost more than 95% of our manufacturing jobs, and why corporations look for a hand out, and bailouts, just like our oil companies..........and our politicians have been played like fools, and for decades..........
We starting heading down this path after Eisenhower, and we've been on it ever since.

Its these people the re-pubs want to protect,,,,,,,,,the likes of Wall Street, and the financial industry, Goldman and the like.........they even have country clubs for the likes of Bernie Sanders. Its a two tier society, and the upper tier never gets enough nor will ever have enough.

If we just go back to the year when Reagan took office our national debt was $780b.........and look at whose been controlling the white house since, and the House throughout most of the years since, and look where its all gotten us One, in a hole we may never dig our way out. Look whose getting the blame, and whose suppose to eat it now?.............and its not the first time either. How much money did the heavy hitters get out of the bailouts personally?.....which brings me to this statement of relying on others for so much. The American people throughout this last century has paid, and paid big. We have how many troops protecting the people of how many lands today?, when our own has been heading down the shitter for years. Just look at what most of our American cities are like today, and its infrastructures............10 years of war has cost this country big, but just two of many our government walked the American people into.............We would have to be blind my friend not to see what all that shits about..............

But I do agree with ya on the point of not looking to government......."for anything". For one the officials for the most part are as dirty and corrupted as they come, and a lie to them is little more than the last one they told.

In turn they should lock up with their mega rich friends and leave the rest of us the hell alone, don't ask anything of us. When their ready to fight another war send them, along with the politicians, and their kids.

One day the street may arrive on their doorsteps, and knocking at their doors.......... they will have brought it on themselves. This isn't a government of the people, and for the people. Its something alright, and even though this country "may" be better than other places in the world, it was this way 500 years ago, much better. They illustrate to us and the rest of the world whats wrong with us as a people, why we have bridges falling down, why people lose jobs, and can't find work..........if only we had people who could lead and solve problems, and who could stop the warmongers?.......

Have a good weekend my friend......hope you don't mind my putting my spin on things. If we could all only figure out what we as individuals need to do to survive that in itself would be a miracle.........but we can't expect our elders from past wars, and in nursing homes, and the sick to be able to.........this is much of where its heading........when we become a people that is that cold hearted, this will never be a better place to live.

Jer

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