WG... I never said/stated that h-h combat was/is the main tactic of warfare...but it is used...and its use is effective... Believe/state what you wish of concerning the Seals...believe/state what you wish concerning me... Bottom line is...there are some in this world that might give a ch*t/interested in what you speak...I for one have found your convs quite boring... I of course cannot speak for the Seals...but when I do speak to one...I shall forward your message... tis By the way...you mentioned something of the VC=83,000,000...was Kerry worth that much before Teresa?