De, Even though JXM found the first time the word grub or grubbing was used for me, Burp was the one that posted a comprehensive history of it. <A HREF="http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4926628" target="_blank">http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4926628</A> This is the first post I could find on IHUB that the term was used. <A HREF="http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11160" target="_blank">http://investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11160</A> Have fun, Phil