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Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:58:55 PM
You present a fallacious argument. The CPU in an Intel system only needs a NB as a medium to transfer data. It doesn't store anything or do anything with the NB itself. Traffic goes CPU->NB->Memory. I understand your point that there absolutely has to be NB in the middle, but I disagree with your representation that CPU->NB and NB->CPU is at all relevant.
As far as Opteron goes, data may be located in local or remote memory. Best case, you have CPU->memory and worst case, you have CPU->CPU->CPU->memory. In the first case, you could argue "gluelessness", but in the other, there is definitely glue, even though the glue just happens to be integrated into the CPU.
Re: As to Opterons not being able to "string" the CPUs to make a computer system, they can do just that and only need other chips to translate HTT to other types of I/O.
This misses the point. The point is that these "other chips to translate HTT to other types of I/O" are completely necessary to make a computer system. Without I/O, you can't even load a program. Memory is a volatile storage unit, and Opteron by itself cannot function without a non-volatile storage. So there is necessary "glue" that needs to be in an Opteron system to provide this kind of capability. This "glue" may be less complex than a fully functional North Bridge, but that isn't the point.
Re: The BIOS can be placed on a DIMM as well.
That's a laughable way to make your argument, Pete. No one does this.
Re: And many A64 systems could be made to work with just one SB. It can have a GPU, NICs, IDEs, SATAs, USBs, sound, firewire, PS/2 and no memory controller and still be a complete computer even by your standards.
Sure it will work, but will an 8-socket server scale in performance with just this? Of course not. It isn't a viable solution.
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