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Re: mas post# 55254

Saturday, 04/30/2005 2:16:18 PM

Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:16:18 PM

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they can't pass discounts which include excluding AMD as a vendor stipulation. It's called fair and open competition

Mas,

Intel has argued that it’s practices are fair and competitive primarily because it can not be shown that the Japanese consumer is harmed. In my post, I went further and made a case where the outcome in favor of AMD can actually harm the consumer. Your response to me in no way addresses that. Your main point is that the AMD is being harmed. Granted; that is the essence of competition and doing business. The fact that Intel is much larger does not preclude the smaller competitor from being harmed when competing. Now, it is my guess that you want to stress the terms “exclusion” and equate that to “unfair”. In light of the private deals in the world, between DELL-INTEL, SUN-AMD, DreamWorks-AMD, etc. it is not clear how they all differ. The fact that Intel accepted the JFTC terms has more to do with not wanting to ruffle the feathers of the Japanese and their business culture than the admission that Intel was guilty. I can argue that, had Intel continued its case in Japan, the outcome would have been very much like here in the US and the FTC.

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