Patch, you are surely one who others should listen to. Since this has not gone to trial yet, and might not, I am having a hard time understanding how what you did by blowing a whistle on Spongetech with nothing but your own belief of malfeasance, along with others who likewise had no absolute proof, is any different than "Hopeful Shareholders" are doing by trying to force the absolute proof from coming to the surface. Nobody on the Hopeful side is saying that SM and MM are completely innocent of any wrongdoing, but rather that there are others that are players in this saga and anyone, and I do mean anyone, who would deny that possibility is living in either a dreamworld, or they are determined to bring down a Co and its innocent shareholders regardless of the truth. There have been some who have said that you are not the enemy of shareholders that we have come to believe, and so I agree with Jim54 in that you should be looking for the real truth regardless of who you think might have to pay for it. We pay taxes for the SEC to do a complete job of protecting shareholders and so money or time should not be the concern, doing a job well done should be. Please don't come back with more negative criticism of honest shareholders who may end up indeed, as you have said, losing their investment, we are not the focus of wrongdoing. We just ask that all who have participated in this crime be accounted for and punished.