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Re: F6 post# 134644

Monday, 03/28/2011 8:52:22 PM

Monday, March 28, 2011 8:52:22 PM

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F6, most of the comments are as annoying, even repugnant, to me as the story is to those
who made them. To me almost all simply condemn, and feel moralistic and self-serving.

The comments i refer to are basically those that, based on their own conditioning, selfishly
and arrogantly (imo) condemn the couple. In contrast i wish the two all the luck in the world.

The only .. yup only .. concern of mine would be the risk of child abnormality. I don't know if the risk is great unless there was further inbreeding.

Then again, there are many adults who have a genetic condition themselves , or who have had children already with a physical or mental problem, that increase the risk of another child having the same or other genetic disability. many parents take that chance, and i'd bet that many of those who condemn this couple without much thought, would not condemn the others with the same heartlessness. If at all.

Haven't found much definitive on the risk factor, 'especially the first time in-breeding risk, yet .. one here ..

Twenty-nine children of brother-sister or father-daughter matings were studied. Twenty-one were ascertained because of the history of incest, eight because of signs or symptoms in the child. In the first group of 21 children, 12 had abnormalities, which were severe in nine (43%). In one of these the disorder was autosomal recessive. All eight of the group referred with signs or symptoms had abnormalities, three from recessive disorders. The high empiric risk for severe problems in the children of such close consanguineous matings should be borne in mind, as most of these infants are relinquished for adoption. .. http://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476%2882%2980347-8/abstract

Oh .. here is another ..

Genetic testing unveils surprising cases of incest
by nickj on February 11, 2011



Doctors testing for genetic abnormalities in children are uncovering shocking cases of incest, according to a report published in The Lancet. .. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(11)60201-8/fulltext ..

The report, authored by Dr. Arthur Beaudet at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, notes that a normal child receives half of his or her genetic information from each parent. When overlapping identical genes are present in much higher than normal quantities, the explanation can only be incest.

In some of the children involved in the Baylor study, about 25 percent of genetic information that should have been different were identical, suggesting first-degree relations in the parents of the offspring, according to ABC News. ..
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/genenic-tests-reveal-incestuous-family-history/story?id=12889895 ..

Children born from such relationships are also 50 percent more likely to have disabilities, reported the source. .. more ..
http://www.trendbuzz.com/technology/12805/genetic-testing-unveils-surprising-cases-of-incest-2.html

AHA! .. this helps ..

Argument: Hereditary risk of incest are same as some other couples
From Debatepedia

Parent debate

* Debate: Legalization of adult incest .. http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Debate:_Legalization_of_adult_incest

Supporting quotations

"The case against love: A recent legislation on incest". University of Oxford, Practical Ethics. April 7, 2008 -
http://www.practicalethicsnews.com/practicalethics/2008/04/the-case-agains.html

The strongest, though most controversial point, is the last one: the protection from hereditary diseases. In the case under debate the pair already has four children. Three of them are in foster care, two are handicapped. Leaving the serious problems raised by classifying someone as handicapped aside, it is to be noted that if this was the only point justifying the illegalness of incest, a consistent law would require sanctioning all sexual acts in which the probability to father handicapped children is raised as compared to some standard. This standard might be the likelihood to have handicapped children within averaged over the whole society or the likelihood for a single couple that, according to current standards, counts as perfectly healthy.

The current law is inconsistent in this respect as it allows partners of all ages to beget children – although there is evidence that the likelihood for genetic defects becomes enhanced with older parents. Also people with diseases known to statistically enhance the chance of having handicapped children are not curtailed in their mating behaviour. ..more ..
http://debatepedia.idebate.org/en/index.php/Argument:_Hereditary_risk_of_incest_are_same_as_some_other_couples

There was another who put my position better than i did, but have lost it for now. LOL








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