I think the voting was pretty close last go around, if anything was to be offered for preferreds, what do you think Roseturd would have to offer us to to get enough people on his side? i myself am a lot heavier in commons so i would vote against what ever he comes up with, but i believe there a lot of just pref. holders out there. another thing, i think fssh brought it up, if pre's or commons either one get paid anything, they would become part of reorg. company, not sure if thats correct or not. whats your take on this?