thank you, spittingfire!!! & barbara!!! i found my old post of march 2010 there...sounds pretty sad at that time also...haven't changed ...no progress! http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_N/threadview?m=tm&bn=45069&tid=20788&mid=20788&tof=-1&rt=2&frt=2&off=1