"This is the one thing that I don't like about message boards is that most people just operate on assumption instead of verifiable factual matter." I TOTALLY AGREE BASSER, HERE IS YOU FACTS: www.eternalimage.net/products/ DO YOU SEE ANY AKC URNS OR CAT URNS LICENSES? THIS CAME FROM EI'S WEB SITE. OR DON'T YOU BELIEVE EI EITHER?