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Re: BRIG_88 post# 79420

Wednesday, 12/01/2010 10:56:04 AM

Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:56:04 AM

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I can give you a perfect example of the kind of drawing they need as part of the Construction Package to deploy that system via outside contractors in large numbers.

It is called a P&ID or a Process and Instrumentation Diagram. It is one of about 5-10 kinds of drawings they would need to be able to construct this quickly via an outside contractor. It is non-dimensional and documents the control system completely. Why don't you look that up on the web and get back to us with what you find. It is somewhat like calling a phone number, it is easy.

Furthermore, anyone who has worked in the process automation industry would agree with me.

This is a perfect example for JBI because they have this complicated control system that JB is so proud of. One of the things that I noted after the last CC is that they were still tweaking it and adding instrumentation. I noted that this indicated that they were still in an experimental stage.

P&IDs rely on every piece of process equipment having a "tag number" which uniquely identifies it. In industry people do not talk about specific valves or instruments, they talk about tag numbers. That implies that the system has to be finalized.

The time for screwing around is way past for JBII. I noted that when TechisBest visited JB was still talking about process improvements. The time is past for that.

Anyway, P&IDs are the Bible in the process industries. If JBI has not got them they cannot be taken seriously beyond those 4 walls of the NY plant.

As a final note, I use photos and notes when I work on my car. I wonder where JB got the idea for that? Are you saying that jBI uses the same techniques that backyard mechanics do?

We hope it is not when...