"On other boards i don't see the posters trying to figure out how to help the companies..goigers do.." He ain't listening to us for ideas. Brendan hears us but Ike ain't turning around his marketing strategy because of what a few messageboard posters write. That isn't to say there are some really fine minds here. If he was listening, he'd dump Mina Mar...too bad he can't for whatever reason. He'd hire salesmen he'd hire ksingh He'd lease billboards He'd lease Bus panel space He'd lose Mina Mar He'd rent the sign in back of Home Plate at Yankee Stadium He'd dump Mina Mar He'd tell us what Keywords are actually paid for He would have never put out those ridiculous Classified ads in the Youngstown Thrifty Freaking Nickel...as inexpensive as it was. He'd dump Mina Mar.