Oh yeah, at least I see I wasn't the only one wondering where the 20 million shares came from or went to. As for the market maker, its insane. Kind of ashamed to admit it but I've had some time off work recently(does it show) and I watch the realtime montage on the OTC site. There's some crazy bidding going on and it only points down, until morning when everything dumps at .049, and here comes the.045 ask again. Usually the same MM will have a bid at .044. The game goes on all day. Now I've only been investing for a couple of years, and this is my first penny stock, so I could be reading to much into it, or just plain watching too much, but it seems the MM tries to sabotage the price every day.