Ombow,
>>No, no one fends for himself. We're all in this together. We're interdependent.<<
Not true at so many levels.
One Example:
My 12 yr old daughter has a friend that has five brothers and sisters and her mom is again expecting twins. She just told my daughter that the state paid for her braces. Neither her mom nor her dad work and they have family members stacked in a 3 bedroom apartment like cord word. This twelve year old girls parents could care less about where their 12 year old daughter is 90% of the time yet they continue to have more children to collect their government supplied check. Three generations live in their three bedroom apartment so they can minimize their expenses and hoard their government paper. This is one of millions of people that are fleecing American tax payers and hard working individuals like me. Not only are these bandits stealing from the government and american tax payers, think about their significantly adverse affect on the country's natural resources. Maybe population control isn't such a bad idea after all.
I am a doer. I'm not a talker and I don't want or need handouts. No one needs to be concerned about how I will manage my businesses during a double dip recession or depression other than me. I made my bed and only I will be responsible for my mortgage payments and success or fate of my businesses. I will not receive any bail outs regardless of what this administration slings. I simply need big brother to get the hell out of my way and let me run my business to the best of my ability. I was broke at 27 years old and found a way. I will find a way again if economic times dictate me to do so. My dad, the second oldest of 11 children, dropped out of high school to work and help pay bills around their household. He has been a successful business man for over 40 years now without a high school diploma or college education. He never gave me a dime and I respect him for that. He built his business from the ground up in the late 60's and survived the Carter era and 18% plus interest rates requiring to hold three jobs to keep the bank off his doorstep. This country can endure the closing of the doors of corporations like GM and AIG. The doers of America will step in and create a new and better product along with just as many jobs as the current GM and AIG if the government simply stays the hell out of the way. Worse is yet to come.
If people over borrowed and had eyes bigger than their wallets, they should be out on the street. I hold no mercy for the over indulgent. I've paid my mortgage and bills on time for the passed 16 years of my life and where lies my reward from this government. I've lived within my means and I can still go to the bank to draw credit even in these credit frozen times. Let people suffer their consequences and let businesses fail that refused to manage their bottom line. Listen to Rick Santelli from CNBC if you want a voice of reason.
You and Haysaw are probably pro-union too. Another organization that should be abolished. It has no place in todays modern day society. Back when slave labor was rampant and rights of workers were jeopardized the union did create a sense of fairness for the worker, today they simply stand in the way of growth and cost control. Did you know that GM asked their factory workers to take a $10 an hour reduction in pay from $37 an hour to $27 an hour to help save the company prior to the bailouts and the union stepped in and flat out rejected GM's proposal. Their union put many of its members out of work rather than allowing GM the opportunity to streamline its costs to maintain profitability to keep factories open. Now I'm not saying that large bonuses and such didn't contribute to GM's and AIG's demise but options existed other than government bailouts paid for by the honest and hardworking class of America.
If you truly want to see how ridiculous your statement is, try borrowing your friends or family members some money with the promise of them to pay it back. You will know quickly how alone you are.
Maybe you and Haysaw are like the guy that spilled hot coffee in his crotch and sued for millions of dollars because he too is not responsible for anything he does on this planet. Again I will fend for myself and take full responsibility for my actions, stupid or otherwise.
As is apparent, we are not all in this together. I wish all on this board well but you alone will answer to your god and I alone will determine my fate on this planet. You may have the same goals as many and abide by the same social laws of this country but your efforts alone will determine where you will and how you will sleep at night. This country and your neighbor will not save you, you will need to stand up for yourself and be counted or you are not any different than the many sheeple headed for the cliffs edge. Good luck to you!
AI
