<img src=<A HREF="http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg" target="_new">http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg</A> height=1 width=1> hey they renamed my other id as 'noblank' I guess you aren't supposed to use spaces... but then again, I'm not. Testing 123... where the ball stops no body knows ----- Did this: <a href="<A HREF="http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg"><img" target="_new">http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg"><img</A> src=<A HREF="http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg" target="_new">http://www.duneram.com/img/tech.jpg</A> height=100 width=100></a> caused this: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e57' [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]String or binary data would be truncated. /beta/update_msg.asp, line 39