I agree... but should we take your word over Minamar's? Should we take Minamar's word over Ike? Not insulting you, I like your scenarios, problem is we are not clear... and we should be clear, that is all. But we will hover in this range for a while.. until we drop further unfortunately. Who is buying a stock that sends out mailers or filings or PRs that can't be believed? This is not me bashing, this is fact... look at what the PPS has been doing for months now! All these new companies and stuff going on, and none of them want to invest in this stock?