Let's be fair, now.............. The pin was probably manufactured in Taiwan, ROC (China) as opposed to the Commie People's Republic (PRC) thereof...... John :-) <img src=http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:b4m9innguzUC:www.pixunlimited.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2001/11/20/Beatles09.jpg> Park your Sub at the iHub - Bub; .....the experience might just "...float your boat..." !!!