Plastic2Oil Inc (PTOI)

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12 hour recap:

John Bordynuik JBII: Looking forward to meet many of you at the AGM. Feedstock availability (California): "However, plastic is only recycled at about a 5 percent rate statewide. "
http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/plastics/
11 hours ago

JG
John - what will it take to get the percentage of plastic recycled increased and a good percentage of that flowing to JBII processors? When I did a quick check, it looks like 1/2 of waste is industrial and 1/2 household. I would think it is easier to go after the industrial waste (low hanging fruit) as the waste stream would seem to be more identifiable. Is this part of the plan?
2 hours ago

John Bordynuik
Jon: I don't quite understand your question (what would it take?). Either stream is very easy to capture because all of the sites we have spoken to (yes, including Waste Management) pays $38 to $70/ton tip fee to get rid of their plastic. They all attempt to recycle PET plastic when the commodity price is high. There is money in collecting and ... See Morerecycling PET plastic.. that's it. If it contaminated then they get nothing or much less. All other plastic is sent to landfill (with the exception of HDPE sometimes). I want all the plastic they pay to dispose of. The industrial waste stream is low hanging fruit because companies are always looking to save money and by reducing their tip fees. Industrial sources do offer a better plastic because it doesn't smell so bad (might sound funny but we have much plastic with food waste we've tested and rotten milk in powdered form smells awful). We are running unwashed mixed plastic anyway and industrial waste results in slightly less residue because I don't have rotten baked food left in the reactor.
about an hour ago

JG
John: I was thinking that much of the unrecycled household plastic is in the form of plastic that is not picked up at the curb by the likes of a Waste Management. I know that we can only put plastic labeled 1,2 or 3 in our green bin. Will JBII make it possible for the green bin to filled with everything plastic? I know that I would love not having to search for the code. I would imagine that a lot of plastic is not recycled just because people don't want to be bothered with sorting it.
about an hour ago

John Bordynuik
No John. The problem is composite plastic and plastics that cannot be sorted by machine or a person. As well, plastics are mismarked at times. If HDPE and PP in the same plastic it cannot and is not recycled at this time. As well, from the recyclers I spoke to if a load is HDPE and it is contaminated with some PET they just landfill it. Many ... See Moreproducts use multiple plastics for various reasons: 1 plastic for lid, one for handle, another for the container, etc.. These plastics cannot be recycled. These problems further complicate the recycling process. Colours are another headache. Some facilities sort PET by colour. With all these problems it is not possible to sort them all 100% except for PET (bottles). HDPE is somewhat sorted by size and some other technology that that is not done to often. Plastic that is generally recycled is plastic left over from product runs when the plastic type and consistency is known. That appears to be most of it.
31 minutes ago