well, dont forget Gateway..... <A HREF="http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/Consumer+Electronics_381930/Audio_381931/MP3+Players_316716/MP3+Players_316717/2521891_ProdDetail.htm" target="_blank">http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/Consumer+Electronics_381930/Audio_381931/MP3+Players_3...</A> when you talk about companies moving on without EDIG tech, the have to be on the list. Did they ever pay EDIG a dime?