phil? bruce is no promoter, you really need to back off on the pumper clown thing, if you expect anyone to have a conversation on the promoter topic. that is of course if you actually expect to have a conversation. I don't believe you do, I think you just enjoy calling promoters pumperclowns, and attacking them anytime you get the chance. Kind of funny though but not conducive to having a usefull conversation. Frankly I don't believe you are interested in having these conversations you feign interest in. It is my opinion you just want to ridicule/attack. Kind of sad and inappropriate for a man of your status on ihub really. In that vein I would suggest you act your age.