patience, this is a long-term investment
We have been tree owners for over 15 years--owning seed-grown teak as old as '93 planted (also 9 native species). See post # 1172 for more info.
We have received specific, written thinning reports dated:
5/16/01
8/25/04
11/28/06
So it has been over 3 years since we have received a thinning report. We have been told our '96 seed-planted teak was all thinned by 2009; however, to date, we have not received a written report.
For some "history" on TATF communications on (lack of) value of young teak, suggest reading post 1200.
There does not exist any agreement on value add; but it is an enormous expense of capital and effort/time at TATF.
For seed-grown teak, my read of TATF projections indicate almost 60% of the projected net proceeds are a result of the final, year 25 harvest.
And, over 91% of the projected net proceeds come from the years 17, 21, & 25 harvests.
For us, none of these last 3 thinnings have taken place; consequently, our patience.
For our sake (and, probably many Tree Owners) I believe Mr. Brunner has ceased both posting and reading the HUB/forum. I would be very happy if he is spending 200% of his time building/maximizing IRR for all Tree Owners(i.e. 3/2/10 arrival of new equipment for high-volume/value-add products)
In time, we have found polite emails answered; not always what we wanted to hear--but answered. We have no hot-line to Mr. Brunner.
I belive the $0.29/B-F H&P cost is, for now, the best they can both estimate and do--on average for small and hugh trees.
I have no break-down. We paid it.
If a tree owner asks TATF to sell their lumber, I think trying to "negotiate" that will be fruitless.
If a tree owner wished to have their logs processed elsewhere, that could be an option.
In recent posts, we have tried to share our (hopefully somewhat beneficial) learnings about TATF, our lumber & sale; I will attempt to cease trying to provide unsolicited advice/learnings/opinions--especially to those intent on damaging their own Tree Owner investments for whatever unfathomable reason!
Former TATF employees and TATF competitors are a different issue --to be dealt with separately.
In checking our available resources, at present, we are unable to purchase additional trees here; that could change in a very few months, however.
We will attempt to answer brief, specific questions; or, say we don't know.
