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Re: tommy 9 fingers post# 5916

Monday, 02/01/2010 3:00:33 PM

Monday, February 01, 2010 3:00:33 PM

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T9F....this isn't about me...it's about VSPC management...

You guys have been saying how honest and ethical MANAGEMENT at VSPC is....almost everyday it's....I just spoke to Dr. J and he said.....

Dr. Jan W. Vandersande is the Director of Communications of Viaspace....he is a FIRST point of contact....you guys have had the most glowing reviews of him.....that's fine....you think he's honest.....that's great

The man says he sees trumpets flying around rooms.....from an interview with DR. JAN W. VANDERSANDE.....google his name....you will find it......

Would you mind summarizing those eight years of observing Mickey and Sara Wolf?

“My wife Marlene and I met Mickey and Sara Wolf in 1970, when they were in their late 50’s. Up until then we had had sittings with several channelers, trance mediums and in a development circle, but we never really received any evidential messages. In our first sitting with Mickey and Sara we experienced trance mediumship, direct voice and trumpets flying around the dark room. We became very friendly with Mickey and Sara and initially would sit with them every two to three weeks for a few years, then every two to three months and then, as they got older, every several months. Every time we sat with them their main guide (control), Brian, would speak through either Sara, who was in trance, or through the direct voice. His characteristic voice was always the same and easily recognizable. Also, the trumpet, with luminous spots on it, flew around the totally dark room quite rapidly, up to the ceiling then to the walls and then slow down and gently touch each of the sitters (usually between four and eight) on the knee or on the head. (It is impossible to do that in the dark without bumping into chairs or sitters. Try it. There is no way any magician can do that, even though many claim they can. I challenge them to do it!!). We also had what were called Christmas sittings every December for the first few years. During those sittings (which were held in the total dark as were just about all their sittings) ectoplasmic spirit children played musical toys that had been placed in the center of the circle and also unwrapped presents (which were also in the center of the circle). Then the children would touch the sitters who could feel the small fingers and hands. I had my pants pulled several times by what felt like a small hand but I never felt the small fingers. However, my wife did feel them. These experiences I have just described were the highlights of sittings with Mickey and Sara. They never charged for their sittings and they were never suspected of fraud or caught doing anything suspicious.”

Is he doing this in his free time?....yeah.....does it say something about his character?....ABSOLUTELY

He wrote a book about this....and the evidence he sites....is his own experiences.....which cannot be verified.....the book has the most fake picture on the front your ever saw....from the interview...

A debunker looking at the cover of your book would no doubt scoff and sneer at the black beard of the materialized form, as it looks fake. How do you respond to such a reaction?

“One of the four photographs taken by our friend Professor Allen of the Johannesburg medium (taken in the late 1960’s) shows a full materialization with a black beard. Firstly, I want to point out that the materialization is a very impressive materialization. It is not some one dressed up in a white sheet. Just look at all the detail, folds, etc. of the ectoplasm covering the spirit entity. Also, there is a large amount of ectoplasm at the feet of the entity and of a sitter standing next to the entity. Any one dressed up to “impersonate” an ectoplasmic entity would never pull along a large amount of white cloth!! Secondly, Tom Harrison in his book shows a photograph of his materialized grandfather also with a black beard. That to me is not a coincidence. A possible explanation is that those parts of the body covered by skin are made from ectoplasm and that hair is not. I have no explanation what it is made from and why it is black. The fact that it is black does not take away from the genuineness of the materialization.” (See sidebar article [[[[[on page 10]]]]] for another possible explanation.)

T9F you guys can do as you wish....(like I can stop you)....this is a discussion of VSPC....I have had some questions about things....the response has been....you are a basher....go away....no I'm a trader(part-time)....and am pretty good at it(imho).....but when I discovered this yesterday....that was it for me....I don't care how low she goes....I ain't buying VSPC....ever....

GLTA