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Re: tommy 9 fingers post# 5904

Monday, 02/01/2010 6:08:25 AM

Monday, February 01, 2010 6:08:25 AM

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There you go again T9F....posting UNTRUE statements.....I know you want people thinking it's all about me....and it's all stories I'm making up.....it was your boy Jan(the Dir. Of Communications of VSPC) seeing and telling GHOST stories....and boy can he communicate....from an interview he made with ASPSI.....google it......

What was most evidential to you?

“Mickey and Sara were mainly mediums who produced physical phenomena (direct voice, trumpets flying and ectoplasmic children) and did not often provide evidential messages when we sat with them. We were told by friends (who had sat with them before we did) that when they were younger they would produce ectoplasm in red light and messages. It appears that they had lost some of their powers when we started sitting with them but what we experienced was still very impressive. The best evidence for life after death we experienced with them would have to be the trumpets flying around the room, gently touching sitters and then floating there in mid-air while a spirit would speak through it. This movement of the trumpet can only be explained by an intelligence from the spirit world directing it. There is no way the medium in trance or any body else could move the trumpet like that in the pitch dark. A photograph of Minnie Harrison shows how the trumpet is moved using ectoplasmic rods that are attached to the medium.”

For months you guys have been saying how top notch an org VSPC was.....ethical people in management.....

Dr. Jan W. Vandersande is a LIAR.....have you seen the cover of his book.....he claims that's a real photo....ie....not doctored....this guy is part of a CULT.....and many of you call him on a regular basis so that he can make you feel better about VSPC......also from the interview....

You mention observing ectoplasm. What exactly did you see?

“Marlene and I have seen ectoplasm in a transparent form at a sitting with Mickey and Sara and their medium friends Max and Kitty Gordon. Mickey and Sara and Max and Kitty were friends for decades and sat together for most of those years. Kitty was a very good physical medium often producing ectoplasm and materializations. On that particular evening Mickey, Sara and Kitty sat in the cabinet. With the red light on Brian, Sara’s guide (the usual master of ceremonies), told us to open the curtains. We could all see the three mediums in trance sitting in the cabinet. Then ectoplasm started pouring out of Kitty’s nose and started to form a gauze-like sheet similar to that seen in photographs of the Johannesburg medium and of Minnie Harrison in my book. One of the sitters was then told to pick up the end of the ectoplasm on the floor, hold it high (about 5-6 feet) and then pull it partly across the room (about 4-6 feet) while it was still attached to Kitty’s nose. It was truly spectacular to see. The ectoplasm was slightly transparent. The person holding the ectoplasm was then told to drop the ectoplasm. It fell to the ground and disappeared (quite fast, within seconds) back into Kitty’s nose. Besides the very clear sight of ectoplasm there was also a very noticeable smell; I would call it a smell very much like a perspiration smell. It was a truly amazing experience and I have absolutely no doubt that it was ectoplasm we had just seen. Unfortunately Kitty, who was already quite elderly, retired from giving sittings after that sitting.”

In light of this...I rescend all predictions I have made about VSPC and VGREF.....you can't beleive anything liars say.....and why would you put someone like that in charge of communications?....

T9F you said you didn't know of any proven lies....well if you beleive the words that comes out of this man's mouth....there is no amout of proof that will convince you otherwise....GLTA