Still here What can you say, I've posted everything possible even the juice cases that where again re posted last week. We've got little to on these days. I agree with several of the posts: We had the products (at the time) however we did not have the cash to market them STB.... what happen? no one knows? Apple/blackberry.....what happen Now they have build a good organization as I've posted but now we wait to see how effective it will be. I'm also tired of the "kind of good PR's" the PR's that contain hints with no meat! I'm just on the side lines watching, but I need something to go on other then a constant declining stock price. B