This is link I meant: <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=432">http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=432</A> Click on it... see the link he posted? is there a way to shorten that sucker...?? Since people are obviously just going to click on it, could it just be like <A HREF="http://www.yahoo.com/fdjkafda/fdja..">http://www.yahoo.com/fdjkafda/fdja..</A>. and it still contain the right data? I know SI does it that way...and all the big news carriers do it that way FM