The same proccess may have been tried by PCBM.. and since a few of Rogers friends were lawyers over on that issue.. I suspect this is round two..... funny how much about PCBM is sealed and unavalible to us under the FOI act. I think the biggest strength of this go-round is the cach'e and allure of diamonds. used cars.. did'nt quite provide the force ma-jour. imhco yak