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Thursday, 10/14/2004 8:30:12 AM

Thursday, October 14, 2004 8:30:12 AM

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*ALL READ THIS POST. IT SUPPORTS 100% MM MANIPULATION ON QBID'S PPS.

Pretty interesting letter sent to the SEC regarding MMM. Could explain the pps run from .0036 to .028 and the retrace back to .0036.

Read the paragraph that talks about Market Maker to Market Maker transactions and how they are recorded in the ACT system. Could also explain the sell that we have seen with QBID. If so...QBID is being accumulated heavily by the MM...WHY do you suppose that is??lol


Volume Manipulation and the
"Market Maker orchestrated Pump and Dump"



Volume Manipulation is another area where Market Maker's collude to create
the impression that there is more activity, accumulation or distribution,
then there actually is. For example, Market Maker A buys 100K from Market
Maker B, who then sells them to Market Maker C, then Market Maker D buys
them, making it appear as if there is 300K worth of volume, when all that
was happening was a "Churn" game that served to inflate volume for the day.
For a more in depth discussion of how this works, please see The Forbes
article titled "One Day Soon the Music's Going to Stop"
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/072996/5803072a.htm

The core aspect of this manipulation is the structure of NASDAQ's ACT system
itself, and which can be discerned by studying the buys and sells as they
are reported in the OTCBB time and sales reports, and by studying the
reporting as it occurs in the ACT system. The major distinguishing feature
here is that Market Maker to Market Maker transactions are recorded on the
sell side only (same as an investor buy), in contrast, the ACT system
records both buys and sells by Market Makers when the trade is being made
with the general public.

Lets look at a few examples, and please note that the side of the trade is
inverted depending upon the market participants "point of view." When a
Market Maker buys from the general public, it's the same as an investor
sell, it is recorded as an ACT system buy or "B". When a Market Maker sells
to the General public, which is the same as an investor buy, it is recorded
as an ACT system sell or "S". So the Market Makers report both buys and
sells to the general public. Unfortunately here is where the rules change to
the detriment of the average investor: A Market Maker to Market Maker
transaction is recorded solely on the sell side as an "S", not on the buy
"B" side. If a Market Maker buys from another Market Maker, it is not
recorded in the ACT system as a "B", it is only the selling Market Maker
that reports it. This is the core reason that it appears in the real time
price stream for OTCBB stocks that a bid:ask ratio of greater than 1:3 is
often required in order for prices to move up, since a Market Maker to
Market Maker transaction represents no change in the supply demand
equilibrium of a stock. The excess over 1:1 is Market Makers trading with
each other.

All sorts of technical accumulation/distribution models use volume in their
calculations, and this churn game where Market Makers sell to each other can
be used to manipulate the buying and selling of many who use such technical
models in their trading. These types of churn trades are all but impossible
to discern from retail trades and to my knowledge are currently completely
impossible to discern in real-time. The Market Makers combine this "churn"
trading with artificial price walk downs and naked shorting, and you have the
potential of complete Market Maker Manipulation of the whole price and volume
chart. This would be exceedingly profitable to conspirators at critical
technical junctures such as the apex of triangles and quiet, pre-breakout
trading ranges to make it appear that the order flow is going opposite to the
"real" order flow.

Why are MarketMaker's are allowed to report these churn trades (Market Maker
to Market Maker) as volume, since supposedly a Market Maker is only
concerned with "making a market?" There is no legitimate need for volume
figures reported in real time price streams as well as end of day price
reports to include Market Maker to Market Maker transactions. After all, who
is the market being made for? Another Market Maker?

Volume manipulation is a type of "pump and dump" scheme orchestrated by and
for the benefit of the Market Makers themselves. It works like this: The
Market Makers start selling to each other to artificially inflate the volume
figure over a period of days to generate investor interest, but they do not
yet start Naked Shorting. Now after some number of investors have laid down
their hard earned money and there has been some price appreciation, Market
Makers then start to Naked Short the position, effectively capturing the
Investors Money, as price erodes due to the dilution that the creation of
the short positions cause. This capture of investors money occurs in the
event the investor has a stop loss figured into their trading strategy which
mandates them to limit their losses, so they sell due to price erosion
caused by Naked Shorting. Stop loss's are always recommended in beginner's
guides to technical analysis and automated trading strategies.

I wonder why?

In any case these stop loss strategies combined with the flawed reporting
structure of the real time price stream, line the Market Makers pockets with
huge sums of money.


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