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Re: makesumgravy post# 172926

Sunday, 10/18/2009 12:49:55 AM

Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:49:55 AM

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Friend, if you blame Bush for the economic disaster, then you hardly have the right to be so pretentious. I'd love a detailed account of what exactly Bush put into place that lead to the fuel prices sky rocketing. To the credit crisis caused by the fuel prices which pushed the economy to the point the bad mortgage backed securities went down.

Was it possibly the tax cuts? The ones which lead to higher than predicted tax revenues because it kicked up the economy as those particular types of tax cuts have always done? Every time it's been done? Kennedy, Regan, Bush, it worked each time.

No, Bush didn't cause the fuel crisis, he wanted to drill. He didn't stop nuclear energy, didn't set up conditions that would make it impossible to build refineries that didn't lose money, he didn't pull the watermelon environmentalism crap that stopped hydro electric projects. He didn't block efforts to go after natural gas. That was democrats and their minion fake environmentalist communists.

Bush also didn't create the community reinvestment act. He didn't put several heavy democrat insiders in at CEO at Freddy and Fannie making 10s of millions each, some made very close to 100 million, and that was back when a million was real money. Bush tried to regulate Freddy and Fannie, but the democrats raised such a stink, got their lap dog press to cry racism with them, and basically pressured enough republicans to back off to go with nearly all the democrats so they were never regulated. Frank, Dodd, Waters, Meeks, and others you can see on youtube video yelling at regulators, and talking about how there was absolutely nothing wrong with Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae.

It wasn't Bush's friends in Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, and others who pushed speculation on the oil futures way past the point of supply and demand ... actually they are connected to Obama's friends in the Chicago Carbon Exchange. The Czar Obama has watching these corporations happens to be on the board at Goldman Sachs, invested millions in Goldman Sachs, and ... get this, sits on the board at Goldman Sachs and both he and Goldman Sachs are invested in, yep, the Carbon Exchange in Chicago owned by Obama's friends and political allies.

Fuel goes high, economy goes low, mortgage backed securities go splat, banks collateral go boom, economy goes to hell.

Do you think planned that right before the Election so everyone would be mad at the incumbent party? I mean he didn't have any part in anything that caused the crash. Not that he was perfect, I was pretty pissed at him, but facts are facts. At least to me they are.

Bush didn't do well in the oil business, is that a character flaw? Good people can't have a bad result in business? That's kind of a narrow view, probably reserved for people you want to smear right? lol

Bush's Guard duty was fine. No one who is less than remarkably intelligent gets placed as a fighter pilot, rich daddy or no. Doesn't happen, Bush is a very intelligent, very capabe man. The problem with the service was fabricated and repeated so often that people who didn't have a clue thought it was true. Helped along by false documents democrats planted about his service. Hardly his bad.

Bush was an Excellent Governor, very popular and very effective, putting together bipartisan efforts like no one else had before.

But I wasn't talking about all that stuff, most of which he definitely did an an excellent job with. If Bush lied to take us to war, then every single country in the UN Security Council was in on it, and so were almost all of the Democrats. Sure, they stabbed him in the back for political gain once we were past the point of no return and continued from then on to Seditiously try to harm the war effort by killing public support and leaking top secret information to the New York Traitors Time about how we were tracking Usama so he caught on and we lost track of him, and other sensitive information.

Not going into Iraq after their thwarting the treaty and the 17 UN Resolutions in a row would have been stupid anyway, but with our intelligence and the intelligence services of every country in the UN Security Council saying he most likely had WMD (because he put so much effort into hiding something from the inspectors, finding out where they would be and cultivating spys in the UN that told him the movements, it made no sense for him to do that while hiding nothing, and with his moles it made sense why they could never find WMD).

Now, with all that on Saddam, and the intelligence services of all those countries saying Saddam was an eminent threat to use WMD against the US and others, and considering the threats Saddam had made ... What if GWB had said ...

awww, just forget about it. What kind of a complete moron would that make him? I mean seriously, how absolutely idiotic is it to suggest that he should have just done nothing?

Sure, some countries strongly objected to the invasion. France, Russia, Germany, others who were not in the Security council like China ... but Russia and China had something serious going with Saddam, that something was a take over and control of the middle east. Can you even imagine the implications of that if they had pulled it off? Both Russia and China aided Saddam in the war. Even France and Germany had government officials bribed and great prospective oil contracts promised. They never in a million years thought Saddam would actually hold out all the way to the bloody end.

So they didn't find a lot of WMD, even though they did find precursors to chemical weapons that would take hours to mix and manufacture up to weapons grade all together. The statement by an Iraqi Air Force General that they had sent out WMD on aircraft to Syria in several loads on cargo plans, just disregard that too. Why not.

The way our intelligence made the definitive announcement, there was absolutely no WMD in Iraq. That's very odd. Intelligence reports by professionals don't make definitive statements about unprovable negative conclusions. Saying there is no WMD in an entire area the size of Iraq? Definitively? Something very weird about that. More so since AFTER they made that statement, they found a number of hidden fighter aircraft buried, they didn't find those before, what if that had been a WMD stock pile? It could still be out there, could be in Syria, could be why they found mustard gas residue in the Tigris river. That there was NO WMD is not decided. I mean the people who said NO WMD are the same people who said YES WMD, do you all of a sudden trust them more? Because you want that conclusion to be true? I mean think about it.

But all that crap wasn't what I was talking about anyway. Bush deserves respect, because he gave it, and still gives it.

Bush didn't even bad mouth Clinton nor did he question the motives or honor of the press that hounded him or the a-hole democrats in Congress that were extremely nasty and dishonest. He didn't say any ugly thing about Al Gore, or John Kerry. Bush made transition as easy as he could for Obama, despite what the democrats did to him during transition and trying to get in his cabinet, when he came into office. Bush since has not said a thing about Obama, despite the nasty and dishonest classless unpresidential even childish garbage Obama has said about Bush constantly since coming to office.

Bush deserves respect, because of the respect he gave and still gives to others in the country. He's a gentleman, a dignified president.

Contrast this with Obama who is a childish Chicago Thug who appears as an immature vindictive high school kid who can't let anything go and be adult about it, thrust into the presidency caught totally unprepared.

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