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Saturday, 01/27/2001 2:42:42 AM

Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:42:42 AM

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Bashing Agendas

Bashing Agendas are simple really. Bashing breakdowns into two different categories.

1. Factual information
2. Falsehoods in both interpretation and information. (The Twist)

How do you tell the two apart? Emotional content.

There are two emotions that dominate the stock market, Greed and Fear, where Bashing deals strictly on stimulating Fear

Bashing with factual information is someone who took the pain staking time to research the fundamentals and management, thus they post the facts. No name-calling, vulgar expressions, personal attacks or character assassinations but rather a clear and concise representation of Due Diligence (DD). It is plainly obvious the poster would not put money in the security because of the findamentals. (Findamentals are the not so pleasant negative fundamentals that have been found that some how has not made into the entire write ups of positive due diligence such as lawsuits, criminal history, etc.) The negative is expressed with minimal speculation or interpretation and the poster is just making an informative venting post .

Also their questions are very solid and can be answered by anyone who took the time to do their own DD..

However, the relentless emotional basher whose post clearly contains no facts or even a solid underlying basis only “Bashing Cards” such as:

Pump and Dump Card = This is the favorite and typically the most used card. No proof other than a fall in stock price or momentum growing.

Reverse Split Card = This one is great for getting sells. These words strike fear in the hearts of investor.

POS / PAS Card = This is the art of Purposely Omitting/Adding Syntax to effect a negative out of a positive by twisting information.

Loss of Money Card = This is a favorite as they post the price is going down so tou should sell so you do not lose money.

False Press Releases Card = Is basically used to put doubt on the information typically after the fact. The effort is to take the news releases outside the time frame or corner to corner content of the release by convenient mis-interpretation.

Credibility Card = Believe me not the TA or fundamentals they are quick to tout they are always right. The only credibility is your own and no one else on line should you get credibility.

“Goodwill” Attack Card = Use to discredit management typically the poster would make a better CEO.

Insider Card = They had a contact inside and know more than the public thus they are trying to save the investment community.

Insider Question Card = Questions that can’t be answered unless you are an insider.

Civil Suit Card = Almost as good as the reverse split card because it strikes fear instantly into the hearts of investors.

Cyber-Moses (Mother Superior) Card = Used to save everyone from an evil company. However, most of the time it is to achieve credibility and a following of Cyber-sheep (Dumb Money).

Lack of Synergy Card = The right hand of the company does not know what the left hand is doing.

Question Card = Question everything regardless of confirmation ro verification,

Redundant Ad Card = This is typically “SELL! SELL! SELL!” posted repeatedly follows the advertising game’s logic of repetition to drive a point home.

Antagonistic Card = Used primarily to attack and discredit the pro posters.

Chaos Card = Disrupt the flow of information. A negative talk site = confusion and negative public opinion



A bash is simply an intentional attempt by (mostly an anonymous) someone to negatively spin or twist certain facts about a company and/or its products to induce Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt to the sites reading community.

They do this for the purpose of:

* Harming or libeling the goodwill (reputation) and public image of the company to induce sells or hinder buying pressure to affect the marketcap,
* An emotional personal vengeful campaign against someone within the company or who is posting positive on the stock to induce sells or hinder buying pressure to affect the marketcap,
* To induce sells and hinder buying pressure so that a short position can be covered
* To induce sells or hinder buying pressure thus driving the price down and accumulate at the lowest possible point.

The various types of bashers:

Cyber-Mother-Superiors or Cyber-Moses out to save everyone (looking for cyberfame and a following)
* A disgruntled promoter or consultant (didn’t get stock or a deal)
* A disgruntled employee or ex employee (got laid off or fired or about to be)
* A competitor (strictly for competitive advantage)
* A disgruntled shareholder that loss money (these types show up vent and leave)
* A broker or voice for a broker or financial institution (looking to effectively gain and advantage on buying and selling the security for gain)
*An emotional unstable poster posting mainly against some other Cyber-personality (vengeance)

Timing of bashing:

* Certain Market Makers are on the bid
* A Market Maker has the stock price “Boxed” or “Locked”
* “Cross trading” is occurring more than trading
* Stock calls are showing up in trading
* Posts about orders being passed over or not filled at all
* A news release comes out this includes bashing previous releases
* Fundamentals are being discussed including verifications and confirmations
* Developments are beginning to come into the light
* During silent periods brought on mostly by using the False News Release Card not to affect investors but to get through to the management. Thus conservative releasing of information plays right into the basher’s hands.
* Restructuring time periods

There should be no doubt that someone who makes their focus to bash/libel a company is gaining something from all their relentless efforts and time. No one, I believe, is as dedicated to bashing and libeling a company and its investors/shareholders without first having an interest or agenda and has already considered the ramifications.

If you debate or challenge a basher with facts or a solid underlying basis look out for the high school naming calling, character assassinations, emotional vulgar language and ridiculous out right lies. This will happen ...

Remember it is known in the market there will always be sellers, shorters, etc. but not always buyers. Plus it is easier to gets people to sell than to buy. However, bashing has a more solid advantage over the other side of the coin, the infamous falsehood positive, the PUMP.

smile Gary Swancey






:=) Gary Swancey

:=) Gary Swancey

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