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Re: ShysterChaser post# 71

Thursday, 08/27/2009 1:59:39 AM

Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:59:39 AM

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:))) Yes!, theirs for sure. You may be right, the only shake up in the market may be nothing more than just rhetoric, Ya know whats odd though?, Regardless of what the working class experience negatively in the market, no matter how many times, people keep coming back for more.

The claims of the uptick rule will remedy the manipulation, or so its claimed...........Yeah!, like reading and repeating the Hippocratic oath to your doctor will give him a heart to do home visits, just to make sure your doing alright when ya can't make it in to the office.

CNBC, and the Cramers of the world are hired to move the markets, depending on their agenda?, up or down, every broker is tuned into those programs during every trading hour.

David Faber tells people what they should know, most work to lure people either in or out, often when its to late. When GE fell to its all time low, and rightfully so, they really worked hard to get a reversal in market trend.

It a Plutocratic system, always has been and always will, and this is why the market implodes every several years, the next one will be even bigger than the one we've all been witness to, after the Savings&Loan scandal things like that were not suppose to happen again after that bailout, yeah, right!. The Bush family was up to their necks in that as well.

If Ellison is worth these kind of paydays, Oracles typical worker whose on the bottom rung should be able to earn around $150k annually just to keep things perspective. The people who keep this country running are paid just enough to keep them coming back day after day, year after year for life!!!


The truth of he matter only profitable companies should be able to come public, and the initial public offering should offer alot of promise to the investing public, but often what happens insiders, and special clients get in at much lower stock prices, and what should happen that everyone of them should have no less than a year restriction on those buys, more often than not its not adhered to, or the companies find a way around alot of it............alot of the jargon written and the unlimited filings offered them shouldn't exist.

These companies can offer public offerings when they choose to if they need to raise more cash, and it should be applied to growth.........There should not be a whole lot that separates public companies from private companies in the way they operate, going public already gives them a leg up without having to borrow millions that they couldn't otherwise..........

The owners give up part ownership when they come public, and this is the trade off. Their entire reasoning for coming public is to earn more through growth. What we witness though is something to the contrary. When they should be dependent on their companies growth, and revenues, and would mean bigger salaries, and perhaps bonuses, all of it should be determined by shareholders, and each employee to include themselves should be paid by check, and check alone. If they take a beating the ones at the top get salary cuts. They need to work for what they earn and paid or not paid through generated revenues. This is where shareholders should be given a real voice. If the owner can't run the company find someone who can. If he or she is only interested in becoming a millionaire either earn it through profits, or sell the company, if they want to be billionaires they should have to sell the company or portion of it, if they can get it?

What we see though in many many of these companies, its all irrelevant, a companies revenues, and cash flow, may be deteriorating, plus stock price, the owners/insiders are still cashing in, and in a big big way. If you or I worked for a private business, and through bad judgements, or decisions cost the company losses, or weren't producing the way we should, we would be gone. If it were the owners if may mean the difference of having the ability to continue operations or bankruptcy, or at the very least restructuring, or downsizing..........

That's the difference between the real world, and Wall Street. If AIG would have been private,,,,,,,,,people would be forming a line for who would receive the most time in prison.

The ones who control the market can take it down, and quick, and know when the triggers are getting pulled, Stocks have moved up dramatically over the last several months, regardless of the fundamentals, and rather quickly, when all the bad news is being fed to the working class investors, an striking fear, an having jumped out from losses, the big boys are buying in on the lows, and when they've eaten a good portion of the pie, they work the financial media, an other sources to get the ones who jumped out back in, or the investing public. Its just a matter of time before a so called "correction" happens. Shorting is the hedgies biggest plays, increased volatility is one the better gauges to watch, a good indicator of where it may be going, along with to much supposed good news.


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