Bob, read about your "arrangement" with Zeev in a post by him on his SI thread. In a subsequent post from Larry Dudash, I was surprised you don't make him a similar offer. He and Zeev are like point and counterpoint; different approaches, but very informative to most readers. I don't remember exactly, but I think the last Yahoo Group he set up had 700 or so members. Please, make it it easy for him to come over to IHUB--and make a good business decision for yourselves at the same time. PS: Just ask Zeev about Larry if you don't realize his pull.