I'll say this, there isn't many free trading shares available, they are being held by the company that holds the convertible debt., believe me they are not selling down here, theres something going on behind the scenes that they are involved in and will most likely be the biggest profiteers in this and when it goes down they will want this one in the pennies. If I remember right when the debt was created the convertibles were issued at over .02, something like .023-.025 area. Someone knows whats going down and is accumulating all they can at these prices, thats my belief having followed this one for well over 4 years now. I've been trading this stock since Feb. 2005.