I have always liked the 30-30. When Sears had a closeout sale in my hometown back in the 70s, My dad bought 2 Winchesters and a Marlin. The winchesters(old style that ejected the shell straight up) were bought for $79.00 each and the Marlin 336c was a little higher. We hunted on a big ranch in wyoming in those days, for lack of deer in Illinois. The boys on the ranch called our 30-30s "women's guns" and the elderly mother of the boys who ran the ranch kept one loaded behind the kitchen door for her personal use.